On February 17, 2020, police in Fort Myers, Florida responded to a horrific single-vehicle accident in which a minivan carrying two women and a three-year-old girl veered off the road, hit several palm trees, and flipped over. The little girl, Serenity Robinson, was not in a car seat and was unrestrained. Her mother, Leslie Joe Zeagler, was found to be impaired by multiple controlled substances and survived with minor injuries. Serenity was not so lucky. Leslie was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Later, Fort Myers police officer Tyler Williams was also charged after prosecutors learned he had pulled Leslie over a month earlier, found illegal drugs in the van, and let her go because he didn’t feel like calling DCF that morning. Even though this officer’s intervention likely would have saved Serenity’s life, a judge dismissed the charges, and the only person prosecuted was her mother. In this episode, you’ll also hear my conversation with Serenity’s father, Randy Robinson, who hasn’t given up on getting justice for his baby girl. This is the infuriating story of Serenity Robinson. Thanks to Magic Mind for sponsoring the show! Use https://www.magicmind.com/stlc for the next 10 days only to save up to 50% off your first subscription to Magic Mind or up to 20% off your first one-time order. Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive rewards. Visit https://www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on https://www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

Last week, I told you about the abduction and murder of seven-year-old Joan D’Alessandro. On April 19, 1973, Joan was delivering Girl Scout cookies when her neighbor, Joseph McGowan, a high school science teacher, lured her into his basement, sexually assaulted her, and brutally beat and strangled the helpless little girl. McGowan pleaded guilty to felony murder and was sentenced to life in the New Jersey prison system with the possibility of parole after 14 years. In this episode, I’ll dig deep into McGowan’s various psychological evaluations and his interview with famed FBI profiler John Douglas, trying to reconcile the mild-mannered man McGowan appeared to be with the heinous rapist and murderer he became on Holy Thursday, 1973. Also in this episode, you’ll hear my conversation with Joan’s mother, Rosemarie D’Alessandro, who has spent decades advocating for children and victims’ families in her beloved daughter’s name. This is part 2 of the horrifying but incredibly inspiring story of Joan D’Alessandro. Thanks to Magic Mind for sponsoring the show! Use my promo code (STLC20) for the next 10 days only to save up to 50% off your first subscription to Magic Mind or up to 20% off your first one-time order. https://www.magicmind.com/stlc Email Rosemarie D’Alessandro about purchasing a signed copy of her book or learning more about the Joan’s Roy Relaxation & Kindness Program: https://gmail.com Joan’s Joy website: https://joansjoy.org Rosemarie D’Alessandro’s book, The Message of Light Amid Letters of Darkness: https://www.amazon.com/Message-Light-Amid-Letters-Darkness-ebook/dp/B0CQRNWHXV/ Joan’s Joy Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/joansjoypage/ The Killer Across the Table by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker: https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Across-Table-Unlocking-Mindhunter-ebook/dp/B07G76Q6BG/ Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive rewards. Visit https://www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on https://www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

On April 19, 1973, seven-year-old Joan D’Alessandro left her family’s home in Hillsdale, New Jersey to deliver her last two boxes of Girl Scout cookies. She never returned. After a massive search and an intensive investigation, police zeroed in on the family’s neighbor, 27-year-old high school science teacher Joseph McGowan, who soon confessed that he had sexually abused and murdered Joan before dumping her body in Harriman State Park, just over the border in New York State. For decades, Joan’s mother, Rosemarie D’Alessandro, has led a charge to change laws, both state and federal, to better protect victims’ families. She has also created a nonprofit foundation focusing on child safety and programs for underprivileged youth. It is my great honor to help Rosemarie tell the story of her beautiful daughter, Joan, and how her memory has inspired decades of important work. This is part 1 of the horrifying but incredibly inspiring story of Joan D’Alessandro. Joan’s Joy website: https://joansjoy.org Rosemarie D’Alessandro’s book, The Message of Light Amid Letters of Darkness: https://www.amazon.com/Message-Light-Amid-Letters-Darkness-ebook/dp/B0CQRNWHXV/ Joan’s Joy Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/joansjoypage/ The Killer Across the Table by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker: https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Across-Table-Unlocking-Mindhunter-ebook/dp/B07G76Q6BG/ Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive rewards. Visit https://www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

**This episode was originally released in June of 2021. I am re-releasing it due to the recent arrest of Lisa Jo Vanderlinden, the woman who spent less than a year in jail for Lucas's murder, on charges of abusing another child.** In 2017, Lucas Call and his baby sister were removed from their biological mother’s custody, in part because she had a learning disability and was unjustly deemed an unfit mother. They were placed in the care of a woman who had previously fostered upwards of 40 children. She was also a trained nurse who worked with the county government’s child abuse investigation team. Sixteen months later, in August of 2018, that woman called 911, reporting 2-year-old Lucas was unresponsive. After Lucas’s death was deemed a homicide caused by blunt force trauma, his foster mother, Lisa Jo Vanderlinden, was charged with his murder. After accepting a plea agreement, Lisa, who claimed to accept responsibility for Lucas’s death but never confessed to causing his injuries, received a sentence so shockingly inadequate that many have called for the judge’s removal from his position. In this episode, I’ll tell you Lucas’s story, and you’ll also hear my interview with Lucas’s great-grandma, Peggy Thompson, who shared with me her anger over the injustice of Lucas’s case, as well as some of her fondest memories of this sweet little boy. This is the infuriating story of Lucas Call. Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.329617545279600&type=3 Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter:https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me onhttp://www.patreon.com/STLCpod, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular weekly episodes. Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit http://www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on http://www.ko-fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at http://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed fromhttps://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://u12069013.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=7DZ1-2FDYJN6xvjLVTDtCxbLn0feXvuwGymOK7S-2FqI4nkWL3mDRFcZEeZXi0Mm2MHXSBeuaqpReI7M5ePYwOgfBLszwW70YEq2-2FjtVNwhtLf5MVwsBOE7UHUsWVIbP7haDropfFZYW02a-2BUVvNN6-2FfKzLmOSPKwzkFLlCC2qYxSpx3XytPxUyvsdiu6vvhQAeqObs-2Bf2ftUBPIXcb0wv-2B1szz-2FDELDlfw5QfwoX2MdGMiguoeP8D4tklnoVg6q7RCwIR5e_V4CTJZ8Th2r-2FWMOviBomDjJ679XsdaTD5UEZfGGYgnArWAB-2FKs16KFjroz1SfYMSCgxy63sk-2Bgm-2By-2FFdMOs-2F93M6ABt7vYq5CuGlvOepPFUexKHqGQWe6FxBlntHnQOYTBq2kdY7-2BKFprkae4G26YD9VdVZoFWnOwX7wd4-2BBhwml3fL15TBu6Fv-2BNTqn75jyui8zcQ3k1t2Z8eH6TPcWTdC5W3aUZNNBlxn3PFf-2FevzmsrjOhOIO9kNSz9tgCuOq Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

As a child, Antonia Deignan believed that her father’s nighttime visits to her bedroom showed the special love he had for her. Still, some part of her knew that what he was doing to her was wrong. She began to create fantasy worlds in her mind to escape. As Tuni grew up, she traded her fantasies for dancing, but her inner turmoil also manifested in self-destructive ways. After she suffered a serious bike accident that forced her to face the demons from her past, Tuni finally began to work through her trauma by writing a hauntingly beautiful memoir about her experiences. For today’s episode, I spoke with Tuni about her book, Underwater Daughter: A Memoir of Survival and Healing, which delves into the way childhood trauma affects every part of a person’s life going forward. This is Underwater Daughter, the story of Antonia Deignan. Tuni’s website: https://antoniadeignan.com Underwater Daughter: A Memoir of Survival and Healing on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Underwater-Daughter-Memoir-Survival-Healing/dp/1647424224 Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular weekly episodes. Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

*Fallon Fridley should have turned 5 yesterday. I'm re-releasing this episode in her honor.* On December 9, 2020, in Sandy Springs, Georgia, two-year-old Fallon Fridley was spending the night at the home of her babysitter, who was also a good friend of Fallon’s mom, Kristin. The babysitter, Kirstie Flood, called 911 that evening to report little Fallon unresponsive, and Fallon was taken by ambulance to the hospital, where she was later pronounced dead. Kirstie claimed Fallon had taken a fall earlier that day at the playground, but after incriminating online searches were found on her phone, Kirstie was arrested two days after Fallon’s death. As Kirstie continues to await trial, additional damning information has been discovered by investigators, including video footage of the actual crime. In this episode, you’ll also hear my conversation with Fallon’s heartbroken mommy, Kristin Gantt, who told me about her special little girl and how her loss has affected her family. This is the tragic story of Fallon Fridley. Justice for Fallon on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForFallon Parents of Murdered Children website: https://pomc.org/ Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook and Instagram: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/sufferthelittlechildrenpodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular Wednesday episodes. Pledges of $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also make a one-time contribution at www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. My merch store can be found at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

Since I started making this podcast, I’ve told the stories of a number of children that have involved the failures of the family court system. So many names pop into my head when I think about it: Thomas Valva. Nakota Kelly. Averylee Hobbs. James Biel. Corey Micciolo. Since 2008, over 900 American children have died at the hands of a parent or guardian after involvement with the family court system, which punishes parents – especially mothers – for reporting domestic or child abuse. Ohio mom Sara Moore, who lost custody of both of her boys for that exact reason, has had enough. Earlier this year, Sara pledged to walk a total of 936 miles from Columbus to the White House and back, one mile for each of the 936 who lost their lives due to mistakes made by the family court system. This is the story of an embattled mother who will never stop fighting for her children and the quest she’s undertaken to draw attention to the epidemic of family court-related child deaths in this country. This is the inspiring story of 936 Miles for Mercy. Links discussed in this episode: Angels’ Voices Silenced No More: https://angelsvoicesnm.org Protect Kids from Family Court: https://www.facebook.com/events/s/protect-kids-from-family-court/1539696220169930/ Sara’s GoFundMe campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-kids-from-family-court-936milesformercy Center for Judicial Excellence: https://centerforjudicialexcellence.org/ The Saunders study: https://barrygoldstein.net/component/tags/tag/the-saunders-study UN Special Rapporteur Reem Alsalem’s United Nations (UN) report on custody and violence against women and children: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/06/urgent-reforms-needed-protect-women-and-children-violence-custody-battles-un The Meier study: https://xyonline.net/sites/xyonline.net/files/2020-05/Meier%2C%20U.S.%20child%20custody%20outcomes%20in%20cases%20involving%20parental%20alienation%20and%20abuse%20allegations%202020.pdf CDC page on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs): https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.html Avett Ray on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2GRjyu6I8E355bDOvv6h8h?si=WhfBBI1WTUqw-2UoRbvE9Q Avett Ray on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEFFl4jVhSQLx-r-08kYtng Avett Ray on Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/avett-ray/1661435060 Avett Ray on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/avettray/ Avett Ray on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/avettray/ This episode is brought to you by Factor. Head to https://factormeals.com/children50 and use code children50 to get 50% off. Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular weekly episodes. Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

For fifteen years you could call a private number in Manhattan and anonymously apologize for anything. It was called The Apology Line. This is the story of the phone line and the man at the other end who became consumed by his own creation. He was known as “Mr. Apology.” As thousands of callers flooded the line, confessing to everything from shoplifting to adultery, drug dealing, to murder, Mr. Apology realized he couldn’t just listen. He had to do something, even if it meant risking everything. Prime Members, you can binge all seven episodes of The Apology line exclusively on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today: https://www.amazon.com/AL_STLC

In 1997, a pair of sisters in Elk Grove, California endured the unthinkable. Their mother and stepfather, Barbara and Larry Carrasco, abused methamphetamine and somehow became certain that Barbara’s daughters, 13-year-old Jessica and five-year-old Alexia, were possessed by demons and vampires. To exorcise the unwanted beings, Barbara and Larry began forcing the girls to drink bleach milkshakes three times a day for eight days. When Alexia died around June 19, 1997, Barbara and Larry forced Jessica to watch them do something unimaginably horrific. This is the story of two girls who didn’t stand a chance against the delusions and abuse of their mother and stepfather. It’s also an incredible story of the survival, strength, and perseverance of Jessica, who joins me on today’s episode to tell me about her sister, Alexia; the investigation into Alexia’s death; and how therapy has helped her to be the best possible mother to her own three daughters. This is the shocking story of Jessica and Alexia Reale. TW: animal abuse Jessica’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Im-Not-Broken-Surviving-Demons-ebook/dp/B0BYY2Q4ZY/ Agent Rinek’s book: https://www.amazon.com/In-Name-of-Children-audiobook/dp/B07FCRWNDP/ Inside the Crime Files Podcast episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-v-carrasco-alexia-reale/id1623264426?i=1000601162219 Transcript of Jessica’s appearance on the Dr. Phil show in 2009: https://www.drphil.com/slideshows/caught-in-the-system-jessica/ Please write letters to the California Board of Parole Hearings (BPH), asking the board not to release either Larry or Barbara Carrasco! From the California Board of Parole Hearings website:“Any person may submit information to the BPH concerning any offender. When deciding whether to release an offender on parole, the BPH considers all information received from the public. Written comments should be directed to the Classification and Parole Representative at the prison where the proceeding will be conducted. Those comments will be included in the offender’s Central File and will be considered by future hearing panels. Communications opposing an offender’s release on parole may be placed in the confidential section of the Central File. The names and addresses of those writing are considered confidential.” Write to the parole board regarding “Larry Carrasco P72561” before Larry’s hearing in November at the address below: Mule Creek State Prison Attn: Classification & Parole Representative P.O. Box 409099 Ione, CA 95640 Write to the parole board regarding “Barbara Carrasco W85611” at the address below: Central California Women’s Facility ATTN: Classification & Parole Representative P.O. Box 1501 Chowchilla, CA 93610-1501 This episode is brought to you by Factor. Head to https://factormeals.com/children50 and use code children50 to get 50% off. Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular weekly episodes. Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

Christian Crossland spent most of his short life in the care of family friends, Brittany and Trevor Easton, who took Christian into their Indiana home and loved him like their own. In January of 2022, Christian’s biological mother, Chelsea Crossland, took him back from the family who doted on and adored him. In under three months, Christian was dead. This is the story of a little boy with a bright smile and a personality to match. It’s also the story of the woman who gave birth to him, let another family raise him, and then spent 74 days systematically starving and ultimately beating him to death. This is the tragic story of Christian Crossland. Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpod My Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular Wednesday episodes (starting with episode #88). Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine. For more stories like this one, visit https://sufferthelittlechildrenblog.com. Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711 Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_site Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KE iHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.